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Hello. I have CPT for iPad and two iPads. How can I copy my opening repertoire from first iPad to second one? And I want to synchronize this repertoire in future also...
I spend rather a lot of time with Chess Position Trainer, usually in Repertoire Mode - usually editing to fine tune my repertoire. Thank you for the great product!
One suggestion would be to have a way to quickly get to user defined "Tabias". This would be ideal for quick training sessions/reviews before a tournament.
Last week is a case in point. I spent some time the night before a tournament, basically reviewing some lines. I wish I had concentrated on 'Tabias'. I played a 2300+ in Round 3, he went straight for a well known tabia in the Dutch ( I just started playing it) and I remember thinking 'WHY on Earth did I not review this the night before instead of glancing at 'odd lines'. I got my lines confused and quickly got a bad position.
Hi Brian,
thank you for your suggestion. Tabias and some more features going into a similiar direction are planned. Actually I hoped a version would be already available with such features, but it takes longer than expected.
Regards,
Stefan
I recently upgraded to the Pro version. One thing I notived is the spaced repetition algorithm only deals with positions, not with complete lines.
In my opinion, the move sequence of an opening line is such an obvious aid to memorization (even in the old-fashioned ways of studying openings) that it's a shame not to make use of it. I'm finding it comfusing to deal with openings in terms of individual positions and moves in seni-random order instead... are you really sure that's the optimal way to learn?
I realize there is already a Complete Line mode in the program, which I find very useful. But I wonder, can I choose to integrate this with the training scheduler, now or possibly in a future version?
I will not say I disagree, but would point out that there are other ways to step thru the sequence of moves - in fact that is how I often use CPT: tabbing thru the candidate moves. As I am stepping thru a line, I make the 'opponents' move, then look at the screen for my response before I look back up and see what I have listed as the correct response. That said, it might be nice to be able to 'hide' the upcoming move though completely.
I still like the idea of possibly being able to quickly go to pre-set 'tibia's so that I could refresh myself with certain main lines quickly without going thru a lot to get to those main positions.
I plan to offer a recall mode where you can play complete lines (and maybe even just focus on a particular opening). This is a little bit more complex though as you probably don't want to repeat the same line over and over again just because on move 10 it deviates. Instead I'm thinking of a similiar approach to learning new positions in combination with the option "start with first new position".
I'm not too worried about having to repeat the first 10-15 moves too many times, but maybe I should be? "Start with first new position" sounds logical. But you could also allow the user to set a standard starting move number for all openings, or a different one for each opening. Or let the program start with the first move that's not absolutely 110% memorized.
In the meantime I may try combining the CPT Complete Line/Current Position mode with the algorithm in a standard spaced repetition program like Anki - if I'm not mistaken all it takes is an Anki file ("deck") where each card represents one sub-sub-(...sub)-variation in my CPT repertoire.
I guess I haven't wrapped my head around just how this will work but it might be okay.
I do still like the idea of a series of user definable "tibias", where the individual does not have to worry at all about say, moves 1 - 7 of the Classical Dutch or the first 15 of a Dragon and can go straight past those old easily learned lines to those critical points.
I like 'refreshing' my memory with those critical positions only on the days leading up to a big tournament. Stepping thru moves to get there is a hassle and it would be something unique to CPT that other programs don't have.
I agreed with Stig Kultorp Martinsen.
1.I suggest in "Opening" I navigate to a position and right click on the move ~ ex: 6.d5 ( train from now )
2.when I am training and arrived muti Variation ~ can display a dialog "1.dxc4 2.Bxc4 3.Nxc4 4Qg5+ ... "I can select a Line to continue to memorize ( user intuitively )
How to modify the engine parameters such as changing the number of Cores to use? With Hyper-threaded CPU's it's advisable to limit only to the amount of Physical cores.
I've been trying to register on this site, but I never get an email with the registration link...
I've had some weird behavior with the move list... for example, it is missing the first White move and instead showing 1. e5 as the first move (it is black's first move showing as White's). Behavior gets stranger if I just ignore it... corrected if I restart.
This bug is corrected with the next release. At the moment you should restart the move list in the opening module when this happens. It does not corrupt your database. It just leads to a strange behaviour, which will be permanently fixed with the next release.
You know, here I am...I've taken off work the day before a tournament...and here I am thinking I do so wish there was a button to hit to quickly go to a user defined list of critical positions in a line or defense I play...say the Dutch and French...'tabias' or perhaps a better phrase is critical positions which I could quickly refresh my memory on. As usual when it's 'brush up time', I don't have time to go thru a bunch of tree branches to find those positions and the standard array of positions the program throws at me to try to remember is just too vast and full of less critical lines. It would SOOO make this the most perfect opening study program. I guess a guy can dream...
Would it be sufficient if just the tabias are shown and you only have to play the next move similiar to the recall mode or would you want to train complete lines just starting with the critical position? I know, having more options is usually better, but it also makes the UI more complicated and increases the programming effort too.
If you can't do it because of the programming complexity, I do understand.
Not complete lines, no. But, I am not thinking of simple "guess a move" like in the recall mode either. As I tell my kids at the club, "Don't just give me a move, give me the idea behind the move".
For example, take the well known Kings Indian tabia which I was showing to one last week which arises after:1.d4 Nf6, 2.c4 g6, 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6, 5.Nf3 0-0, 6.Be2 e5, 7.0-0 Nc6, 8.d5 Ne7. We are at a 'tabia' where White can play 9.Ne1 or 9.Nd2 or 9.b4 - each has a particular idea behind it, so I asked them to show me 3 or 4 more moves, not just recall the first move we discussed the week before. 9.Ne1 for example might have the idea to play 10.Be3, then in response to the advance of Blacks f-pawn, f3 followed by Bf2 with the idea of pushing the b and c pawns forward with queenside play. That is why I tell them to give me maybe 3 or 4 more moves so that they can remember or demonstrate the idea behind the move.
This may or may not be a good example, but perhaps you can see what I am getting at. Moves...are just moves and the idea may or may not be readily apparent by guessing/remembering a move. When you are training before a tournament, a move with just a few moves connected to it can make you think "Yes, I remember, that is what I am trying to do in this line!".
For the user to be able to set a list of key positions as 'tabias' or critical moments, and easily access and go thru them would be a proverbial god-send. If it is too complex to program, I understand. Simply setting a list of tabias and playing the next move like you mentioned as in the recall mode, might be a reasonable alternative.
Say, I wonder if using your idea one could, to take my example, simply set 'multiple' tabias or critical positions in that line as in 9.Ne1 then after 9...Nd7 appears, set 10. Be3 as a critical position to recall, then after 10...f5, set 11.f3 as a critical position to recall, etc as in the above example? If that would be possible, it would seem that you could use your method and still end up with what I am looking at. The only thing would be that the set of moves would need to be contiguous as opposed to randomly generated. Good discussion!
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Eastern...maybe it's just because I'm tired, but I don't get it.
I do so love the design on the eggs though!
Ouch! It looks like I was tired...
Hello. I have CPT for iPad and two iPads. How can I copy my opening repertoire from first iPad to second one? And I want to synchronize this repertoire in future also...
Hi Peter,
CPT is not yet available for iPad.
Regards,
Stefan
I spend rather a lot of time with Chess Position Trainer, usually in Repertoire Mode - usually editing to fine tune my repertoire. Thank you for the great product!
One suggestion would be to have a way to quickly get to user defined "Tabias". This would be ideal for quick training sessions/reviews before a tournament.
Last week is a case in point. I spent some time the night before a tournament, basically reviewing some lines. I wish I had concentrated on 'Tabias'. I played a 2300+ in Round 3, he went straight for a well known tabia in the Dutch ( I just started playing it) and I remember thinking 'WHY on Earth did I not review this the night before instead of glancing at 'odd lines'. I got my lines confused and quickly got a bad position.
Hi Brian,
thank you for your suggestion. Tabias and some more features going into a similiar direction are planned. Actually I hoped a version would be already available with such features, but it takes longer than expected.
Regards,
Stefan
I recently upgraded to the Pro version. One thing I notived is the spaced repetition algorithm only deals with positions, not with complete lines.
In my opinion, the move sequence of an opening line is such an obvious aid to memorization (even in the old-fashioned ways of studying openings) that it's a shame not to make use of it. I'm finding it comfusing to deal with openings in terms of individual positions and moves in seni-random order instead... are you really sure that's the optimal way to learn?
I realize there is already a Complete Line mode in the program, which I find very useful. But I wonder, can I choose to integrate this with the training scheduler, now or possibly in a future version?
Regards,
Stig K. Martinsen
Me,too complete line or seq line is more suitable in memorizing in my mind~
I will not say I disagree, but would point out that there are other ways to step thru the sequence of moves - in fact that is how I often use CPT: tabbing thru the candidate moves. As I am stepping thru a line, I make the 'opponents' move, then look at the screen for my response before I look back up and see what I have listed as the correct response. That said, it might be nice to be able to 'hide' the upcoming move though completely.
I still like the idea of possibly being able to quickly go to pre-set 'tibia's so that I could refresh myself with certain main lines quickly without going thru a lot to get to those main positions.
I plan to offer a recall mode where you can play complete lines (and maybe even just focus on a particular opening). This is a little bit more complex though as you probably don't want to repeat the same line over and over again just because on move 10 it deviates. Instead I'm thinking of a similiar approach to learning new positions in combination with the option "start with first new position".
Great news, Stefan!
I'm not too worried about having to repeat the first 10-15 moves too many times, but maybe I should be? "Start with first new position" sounds logical. But you could also allow the user to set a standard starting move number for all openings, or a different one for each opening. Or let the program start with the first move that's not absolutely 110% memorized.
In the meantime I may try combining the CPT Complete Line/Current Position mode with the algorithm in a standard spaced repetition program like Anki - if I'm not mistaken all it takes is an Anki file ("deck") where each card represents one sub-sub-(...sub)-variation in my CPT repertoire.
I guess I haven't wrapped my head around just how this will work but it might be okay.
I do still like the idea of a series of user definable "tibias", where the individual does not have to worry at all about say, moves 1 - 7 of the Classical Dutch or the first 15 of a Dragon and can go straight past those old easily learned lines to those critical points.
I like 'refreshing' my memory with those critical positions only on the days leading up to a big tournament. Stepping thru moves to get there is a hassle and it would be something unique to CPT that other programs don't have.
I agreed with Stig Kultorp Martinsen.
1.I suggest in "Opening" I navigate to a position and right click on the move ~ ex: 6.d5 ( train from now )
2.when I am training and arrived muti Variation ~ can display a dialog "1.dxc4 2.Bxc4 3.Nxc4 4Qg5+ ... "I can select a Line to continue to memorize ( user intuitively )
Hi,
How to modify the engine parameters such as changing the number of Cores to use? With Hyper-threaded CPU's it's advisable to limit only to the amount of Physical cores.
Thanks
I've been trying to register on this site, but I never get an email with the registration link...
I've had some weird behavior with the move list... for example, it is missing the first White move and instead showing 1. e5 as the first move (it is black's first move showing as White's). Behavior gets stranger if I just ignore it... corrected if I restart.
This bug is corrected with the next release. At the moment you should restart the move list in the opening module when this happens. It does not corrupt your database. It just leads to a strange behaviour, which will be permanently fixed with the next release.
You know, here I am...I've taken off work the day before a tournament...and here I am thinking I do so wish there was a button to hit to quickly go to a user defined list of critical positions in a line or defense I play...say the Dutch and French...'tabias' or perhaps a better phrase is critical positions which I could quickly refresh my memory on. As usual when it's 'brush up time', I don't have time to go thru a bunch of tree branches to find those positions and the standard array of positions the program throws at me to try to remember is just too vast and full of less critical lines. It would SOOO make this the most perfect opening study program. I guess a guy can dream...
Would it be sufficient if just the tabias are shown and you only have to play the next move similiar to the recall mode or would you want to train complete lines just starting with the critical position? I know, having more options is usually better, but it also makes the UI more complicated and increases the programming effort too.
If you can't do it because of the programming complexity, I do understand.
Not complete lines, no. But, I am not thinking of simple "guess a move" like in the recall mode either. As I tell my kids at the club, "Don't just give me a move, give me the idea behind the move".
For example, take the well known Kings Indian tabia which I was showing to one last week which arises after:1.d4 Nf6, 2.c4 g6, 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6, 5.Nf3 0-0, 6.Be2 e5, 7.0-0 Nc6, 8.d5 Ne7. We are at a 'tabia' where White can play 9.Ne1 or 9.Nd2 or 9.b4 - each has a particular idea behind it, so I asked them to show me 3 or 4 more moves, not just recall the first move we discussed the week before. 9.Ne1 for example might have the idea to play 10.Be3, then in response to the advance of Blacks f-pawn, f3 followed by Bf2 with the idea of pushing the b and c pawns forward with queenside play. That is why I tell them to give me maybe 3 or 4 more moves so that they can remember or demonstrate the idea behind the move.
This may or may not be a good example, but perhaps you can see what I am getting at. Moves...are just moves and the idea may or may not be readily apparent by guessing/remembering a move. When you are training before a tournament, a move with just a few moves connected to it can make you think "Yes, I remember, that is what I am trying to do in this line!".
For the user to be able to set a list of key positions as 'tabias' or critical moments, and easily access and go thru them would be a proverbial god-send. If it is too complex to program, I understand. Simply setting a list of tabias and playing the next move like you mentioned as in the recall mode, might be a reasonable alternative.
Say, I wonder if using your idea one could, to take my example, simply set 'multiple' tabias or critical positions in that line as in 9.Ne1 then after 9...Nd7 appears, set 10. Be3 as a critical position to recall, then after 10...f5, set 11.f3 as a critical position to recall, etc as in the above example? If that would be possible, it would seem that you could use your method and still end up with what I am looking at. The only thing would be that the set of moves would need to be contiguous as opposed to randomly generated. Good discussion!
I believe the way I've implemented it should work for your use case as well. I've just created a new blog entry about it:
http://www.chesspositiontrainer.com/index.php/en/blog